Showing posts with label men. Show all posts
Showing posts with label men. Show all posts

Monday, October 29, 2007

Who negotiates salary better: men or women?

My friends email:

Negotiating to Win

Why too many women don't ask for what they want, keeping big jobs and
top salaries out of reach.
Recent studies show that women, even at the highest levels of business,
perceive negotiation negatively, while men almost relish it. And when
it
comes to negotiating pay it's costing women dearly.
Though women hold nearly half of the management level jobs in the U.S.
work force, on average, white women earn 78 cents for every dollar a
male earns. Minority women earn even less, with African-American women
making 67 cents and Latina women being paid 56 cents on the dollar.
However, mounting evidence across many professional fields shows even
when everything else is equal, men make more money for doing the same
job. The reasons? Several independent researchers have established a
stunning new theory: Women aren't very good at negotiating for the
salaries they deserve. In fact, women are less likely than men to
engage
in negotiations.
Men view the negotiation process positively, as sort of a game, while
women find it painful,
Women and men both made lower offers to women, and both sexes demanded
more from women, according to a study at the University of Vermont.
Women negotiate less, do it less effectively and tend to take the whole
process personally,
While it is nice to believe the world is a meritocracy in which money
follows performance, the evidence shows otherwise. The good news is
that
negotiating is a teachable skill and one that can be depersonalized as
an experience by gathering data and reducing ambiguity.
http://www.pinkmagazine.com/exclusives/negotiatingToWin_0605_2.html
My reply

The problem is with individuals, not genders. Some of us are pussies on this issue, some of us are not.
Marta Stewart, Condolezza Rice, Annita Roderick(?)(Bodyshop founder), Fiorina (ex-president of HP), Vanessa Myers (Google), Hillary Clinton...are women that not only probably don't shy away from negotiations, but have very clear what they want to earn and price themselves accordingly.
Beware of articles based on studies that, although make us feel better, also helps us to justify our fears or mediocrity.
It is ok not to like to negotiate. I am a man and hate it deeply, perhaps undervaluing myself when I work for others. Why? Because I hate to feel and be treated as merchandise. And I know I am much more than the money I make or I have in the bank.
You either like bargaining, or you don't. Doesn't matter if you are a man or a woman.
And everyone will try to take advantage of you if they are to negotiate your pay, no matter if they are men or women.

> Men view the negotiation process positively, as sort
> of a game, while
Stupid generalization. Not true.

> women find it painful,
Aaaaaawwwww...poor, poor women! ;) Come on, give me a break! I know some women that are 100 times worse than men (my ex-boss wife: if you even engage in conversation with her, you are probably losing money!)

> Women and men both made lower offers to women, and
> both sexes demanded
> more from women,

Hard to believe. I see men being pressurized as well, and depending of the society, if a woman fails, people are softer with them. If a man fails, there is no mercy (generally) Women have a little extra credit. Women are more likely to ge given another opportunity whereas a man would be sacked on the spot. (from my experience as a worker and manager)

> Women negotiate less, do it less effectively and
> tend to take the whole
> process personally,

Men take it maybe more personally than women. Don't believe me? Read about the unemployed men in Japan who die of starvation (in Tokio!) before asking for help or food. Read about the psychological studies that say that men associate their identity with their job much more than women do. If that's not taking it personally, you tell me what is!

> While it is nice to believe the world is a
> meritocracy in which money
> follows performance, the evidence shows otherwise.

The glass ceiling is not there anymore for women, I think. It seems that it is there, but it is not. The capital today doesn't care if you are a man or woman. Investors only want results. If you are damn good at your job ad make your company a lot of money and are smart enough to do this in a visible way, you'll be promoted and earning millions, as the women I mentioned above do.

> The good news is that
> negotiating is a teachable skill and one that can be
> depersonalized as
> an experience by gathering data and reducing
> ambiguity.

True. The problem is if you hate it, like me :)
Then you'd better get rich on your own.

Summarizing...I know you don't like my opinion, but get informed about it, 'cause I am right ;) : in the future there is less and less work for all of us, men or women, particularly in the developed world.
Read this article for more
We should be thinking on how to prepare for this, regardless of our gender.

Kiss

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Thursday, July 05, 2007

The power of women...



...and the power of an image.
No words needed.

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Monday, June 18, 2007

Sex with a woman who is drunk may soon be rape

...so half of men who go out on a Friday in England would be in jail by Monday ;)
From "the world upside down" section of this blog, here come the news:
A new white paper is expected to propose...that If a woman is deemed to have consumed so much alcohol that she is incapable of agreeing to make love, the man would be far more likely to be convicted of rape
This is interesting, bearing in mind what you can see every weekend here. A lot of people in a state that could be considered "drunk" by many standards.
How will this affect men-women relationships? Will it not make it even more difficult to socialize? (as if everyone being drunk and loud music wouldn't make it hard enough)
Proof of whether a woman was drunk would come from medical tests - as well as evidence from witnesses and victims.
OMG. So this means that a man could be convicted on the word of a drunk woman's friends? What kind of credibility would you give to people that let their friends get to that state? What if they're drunk too and can't remember so well what they saw? So if I understand correctly, the police/judicial system would believe them? Wow...
And could you tell me exactly which medical tests would be able to retroactively prove consent? (or lack of it. Yes, I imagine that no medical tests could prove this, so we'd be left with the word of her "friends")
Also, what if the girl wants to set up the man? It would be so easy for her! She can get drunk before or after the fact, give consent privately to him, and then accuse him of rape...wow...how nice.
Don't get me wrong. I am all against rapist and abusers, and i think they should get what they deserverve. But I think some kinds of laws have too much room for wrong convictions, and I can't accept that. I hate seeing innocent people going to jail, losing everything they have, based on the testimony of people that could well be lying. What if it happened to you?
The new law places a heavy responsibility on men to be certain that a woman is sober enough to know what she is doing.
...George McAuley, chairman of the UK Men's Movement, said men may have to resort to obtaining written 'contracts' or using mobile phones to film their partners consenting to sex.
Exactly. Come on...you have to be joking! Is the solution to avoid women altogether? If you are not a man, try to see it for a moment from an average, innocent guy's point of view. What would you do?

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Saturday, June 02, 2007

How's the perfect guy for a woman?

If you've ever wondered what women want, wonder no more. Here is a little list of the main qualities that a blue prince should have today. Are they all so easy to please?
http://www.nomarriage.com/perfectguy.html

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Saturday, May 19, 2007

Biologically biased towards beauty

The survey published in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B said that brain scan studies show that "reward centres" are triggered in men when they gaze at a woman's face or body whereas they are not in females. It also shows men are more likely to make an effort to view pictures of the opposite sex and pay out money.
You can see more of this girl here

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